Server Variables

[Dominator]

Would you guys like me to change any of these, I really want to change the spy ones because its my fav class and it will give it more of an edge over the pyro whore class.

sm_cvar ai_expression_optimization "0" ~ not a locked cvar, but it is useful for server optimization change to 1 to use.
sm_cvar net_compressionvoice "0" ~ I have this set to one for better bandwidth usage on my server.
sm_cvar mp_waitingforplayers_time "10" ~ how long you need to "wait" for other players to join at each server round. Can't be disabled, just shortened.
sm_cvar tf_caplinear "1" ~ set this to 0, and you won't have to capture control points in any kind of order, you still need to get them all, though.

Medic
sm_cvar tf_max_health_boost "1.5" heals to 150%, ~ so change to 2 to make it 200% normal health.
sm_cvar sm_cvar weapon_medigun_damage_modifier "1.5" ~ changes damage you do(1.5x normal) while being healed by a medic unaffected by crits.
sm_cvar weapon_medigun_charge_rate "40" ~ change to a lower value to make Uber's charge faster.
sm_cvar tf_invuln_time "1" ~ changes how long you stay invul for after an uber, "2" = twice as long.

Spy
sm_cvar tf_spy_cloak_consume_rate "10" ~ lower to 5 to make it last twice as long.
sm_cvar tf_spy_cloak_regen_rate "3.3" ~ change to a higher value to make it regenerate faster.
sm_cvar tf_spy_cloak_no_attack_time "2" ~ change to 1 or 0 to shorten how long it takes to be able to attack after decloaking, 0 not recommended unless you have an "insane" modded server.

Engineer
sm_cvar obj_dispenser_heal_rate "10" ~ still working on getting this working right...
sm_cvar tf_sentrygun_damage "16" ~ if you change it to 32 sentries will do twice the normal amount of damage.
sm_cvar tf_sentrygun_metal_per_shell "1" ~ how much metal costs per shell duh. changing to 0 has nasty side-affects.
sm_cvar tf_sentrygun_metal_per_rocket "3" ~ how much metal costs per rocket duh. changing to -1 has really nasty side-affects.
sm_cvar tf_sentrygun_newtarget_dist "300" ~ not sure if this works or not, needs more testing..
sm_cvar tf_sentrygun_ammocheat "0" ~ changing to 1 gives sentries infinite ammo, no need to hit with wrench anymore! mix this with metal_per_etc to 0 for extra measure.
sm_cvar obj_child_damage_factor "1" ~ the damage factor all buildings receive. set to .5 for half damage.
sm_cvar obj_damage_factor "1" ~ not sure as to the difference between these two, so just set them both at once the same value.

Pyro
sm_cvar tf_flamethrower_maxdamagedist "300" ~ tired of valve fucking over your Pyro's? Change this to 350 to make things more fair.

[Crit Goes Where?!?]

I really think trying these out would be good.  Just don't know if they'll throw off the balance though

[Dominator]

thats what I'm afraid of as well, I don't think the spy one would throw it of to much since the plugin I have to give spys more cloak time after they make a kill doesnt add to much and also pyro's can just cough to set one on fire.  I think it will make the game more interesting for spy's to really get behind enemy lines and good players like us already check for that so the spy class is kinda boring.  Also spy's arent really a threat to engines compared so someone uberd unless they know how to take out an engie and their builds like me and kenyan know how to, but still theres always something there to fuck your day........

[*Kajisan*]

i agree with you Dom, bump up spy a little!  :cool:

[Boba fett]

Yea agreed. But I play mostly pyro. (Trigger happy pyro) So spy still die went I meet them. Also I kicked a douchebag yesterday, he was saying that I was hacking has a enginer. Being a good engi, I set a sentry, Dispenser and teleport, and after go Offense. (As defender On 3rd dustbowl point. ) I found out that the shotgun Is a VERY GOOD weapons against everyone. And the engi and pyro Are well suited to USE the shotgun. And the pistol with 200 ammo, well its good for long range. So for me, I think that the
ENGINER Is one of the best class. With no sentry, Its still badass. People often see me and do like WTF! A enginer runned into me and killed me! I also Shoot everyone AND shoot when I think I am hearing a spy walking, SO I kill many cloaked spy. That douchebag was also saying things like:    Oh, my team suck. I am always on the looser team, My team is bad. This server suck.    On another note: HE was the one with less point on his team.

[Stobbin]

sm_cvar mp_waitingforplayers_time "10" ~ how long you need to "wait" for other players to join at each server round. Can't be disabled, just shortened.

But can it be lengthened?  Some people take minutes to join and miss the setup time completely.  30 seconds is good, a minute might be better.
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sm_cvar sm_cvar weapon_medigun_damage_modifier "1.5" ~ changes damage you do(1.5x normal) while being healed by a medic unaffected by crits.

50% increase is a little much...  how about 1.1 = 10%
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sm_cvar obj_child_damage_factor "1" ~ the damage factor all buildings receive. set to .5 for half damage.

Can you set this to 1.2?  or can you only reduce damage?  With our 0 respawn time, some maps are nearly impossible with 3 sentries.
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I like ALL the other ones.

[Alfalfa]

Sound good.

[Kelreth]

I think the allow all points to be captured at any time would ruin the game on some levels. The levels are made to be taken sequentially. Dustbowl for example, if a spy takes teh 2nd point as the 1st point is under fire, the round will be over quickly as the first point typically falls easily to a few ubers and explosives


can we not fuck with the settings? the server is fun as is

if you are going to implement it at least please do not have the one that causes more damage if you are being healed by a medic, that would be grossly unnecessary and make ubers that much more a pain in the ass

[Boba fett]

yea

[Kenyan Bee Thief]

This is a slippery slope, any changes you make should be done one at a time and slowly to ensure you don't lose players.

I like spy myself, but one of the things I like is that you have to overcome your weaknesses.  Not to mention, pyros are supposed to counter spies.

Boosting things like the medic seems like a good idea to me, though.  Just listen to Stobbin, he's dead on with his comment.

[Stobbin]

My ears are burning.

I just lit a q-tip on fire.

[Boba fett]

ouch! That goota hurt?

[Mushroom3691]

I don't know, I'd rather wait for the spy's update to come out before we screw around with stuff.

I like it the way it is.

[Kelreth]

ya please dont make spys kick ass or pyros suck just becuase pyros are supposed to kill spys

i know some people are dicks as pyros hunting spys or just burning constantly, but thats what pyros do

to me that is boring, i prefer to go out and hunt people

[Fenriswolf]

Keep it as it is.  Changing the game is a bad idea, so dont do it. save that stuff for fun night and test server.   Should deffinantly do it on fun night

[Dominator]

Guys check this out, I found more control varibles to change the game play around, right now im working on fixing the teleporter mod!

sm_cvar tf_teleporter_fov_time .1

but heres the link

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=72608

[Alfalfa]

Heavy should be invincable when having his fists out.

[Hollow]

i like the spy changes too, we should try the 200% healing for medic and infinite ammo for sentrygun.

[Kelreth]

wait what was changed with the spy?

[Crit Goes Where?!?]

I really think the no_attack_time should be 1 and some combination of the other spy ones would be good, but not both.  Spy was insanely easy when all three were changed

[Stobbin]

Uncloak and recloak should never be set to zero.  I'm sure the red team with 7 spies was having a blast tonight, but the blue team was unbelievably screwed.  I was being fatally stabbed (mostly in the face) without ever having a chance to defend myself in time.

[Alfalfa]

Agreed.


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[DickTater]

honestly, idc... i can live with overpowered anybodies, im just not into complaining a lot anymore
but i do see where it can get ridiculous, just try and balance it the best you can, Dom.. but as someone has already said:
make the changes over time so that people will get accustomed to them and maybe be able to voice their like or
dislike for a change

[Kelreth]

IF spys have 0 time for decloack, clock

I'm pyro spamming

[DickTater]

lol, thats wat people did on tuesday, it was hilarious watching pyros flip their shit XD

[Kelreth]

fuck it spys had that power, i would just hide somewhere as a pyro or stand by a dispenser and spin

[Crit Goes Where?!?]

You'd be easy pray for "Death from Above".

[Kelreth]

Then I would wander away and play Spore or play as a Spy and just hide somewhere

[Suicidal Kal]

I agree with dom on this one, i think the spy should be altered. I suck as spy but the spy does need an advantage over the pyro somehow. I say leave the stab rate and upgrade the cloak time.

[Luko]

I agree with dom on this one

If I had a nickel for ever time I heard that...
I'd have 5 cents.

[Dominator]

I agree with me on this one

[DickTater]

lol bump

[LiquidSnake]

I agree with dom on this one

If I had a nickel for ever time I heard that...
I'd tickle a pickle